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Welcome back my friends, to the show that always spends. We’re so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside...Faced with the prospect of dwindling revenue streams, an economy in full-bore recession and a $500,000 shortfall in the state’s VLT aid, the City Council has decided to do what they do best: create more senseless jobs and spend more money.
First up was the creation of a new “executive assistant” for freshman Department of Public Works Commissioner Skip Scirocco. To the council’s credit, an employee from the Accounts department was transferred to DPW. But this “confidential secretary” to Scirocco will earn $36,000 annually, which is the same salary earned by a similar position in the Finance department. And there was no mention of losing the Accounts position through attrition.
So basically, the commissioners of Finance and Public Works now have their own secretaries, in addition to office assistants and their full-time deputies. What a blast, thought Democratic Public Safety Commissioner Ron Kim; why not make it three?
Sure enough, the absent commissioner slipped a resolution into this week’s meeting asking for his own confidential secretary. It wasn’t a surprising move, considering Kim once claimed the public’s safety couldn’t be assured without two deputies to run the office. But Kim’s shot at inflating next year’s budget was unceremoniously shot down by Mayor Scott Johnson and Accounts Commissioner John Franck because he hadn’t in absentia “satisfactorily resolved” concerns raised by the mayor. Political translation: Go fuck yourself, Ron.
Certainly there is no goodwill between Kim and Franck, both Republicans who became Democrats once it seemed fashionable. As many are still trying to forget, Kim sided with the failed mayoral run of Valerie Keehn, while Franck allied with the failed Public Works campaign of her nemesis, Tom McTygue. And that colossal disaster continues to unfold on a smaller level between Kim and Franck.
But more recently, the big battle has been between Kim, a poorly sewn sock puppet for former Keehn deputy Eileen Finneran; and Johnson, a Republican who she rightly views as an enemy to Keehn’s failed politics. So far, Johnson has been the brunt of nearly every media release issued from the Public Safety office this year; Johnson downplayed the danger of the 911-system failures, Johnson doesn’t care about ensuring the safety of residents, Johnson is trying to consolidate his power, Johnson is a card-carrying member of the Illuminati, et cetera.
The most ludicrous missive belched from Kim’s office this week ordered his subordinates to stop using the city’s nonpartisan human resource administrator.
“I am directing until further notice that all employees of the Department of Public Safety cease and desist in any further direct communication with the Human Resources Director[sic],” he wrote in the memo, which he then shipped off to all four area newspapers before cutting out of Tuesday’s meeting.
Basically, Kim wants the city to fund a $36,000 executive assistant for his office, which would more than likely pick up the duties of the $45,000 administrator he directed his employees to ignore. What a great allocation of resources.
He wasn’t alone in his thinking either. Both Scirocco and Finance Commissioner Ken Ivins –fresh from explaining the new VLT aid deficit the city is likely to face –voted in favor of creating a new clerical position for Kim’s office. It’s tough to say exactly why these two purported fiscal conservatives would advocate for spending money on creating new government positions; perhaps it has something to do validating the need for their own executive assistants.
In any case, the Spa City’s government continues to grow like onion grass in springtime. It’s something to take into consideration when budget discussions fire up later this year and the council starts considering whether they’re going to hike taxes or cut services. Meanwhile, there’s a pair of secretaries shuffling papers in City Hall, both making nearly three times the salary of their elected bosses. God bless this American Democracy.
posted by Horatio Alger at 8:35 AM
83 Comments:
Maybe Go fuck yourself, Ron is a better way to start and end each entry.
Ron Kim is right! The position is needed whether they like it or not. The Human Resources Director should not be used as a pawn in this chess match. That's the kind of bull that John Franck and co. revert to though. But what the hell! Go Fuck yourself anyway, Ron!
Nothing much to say, but I've been aching for a reason to say, "Go Fuck (yes, with a capital F) yourself Ron!"
First the organ grinder {Skippy} he simple needs a secretary because neither he nor his deputy have good written or verbal communications skills. Everyone who knows him is aware of his feeble abilities. This is a man who was a glorified dog chaser who through old school Republican friends who could always count on his loyalty to do there bidding managed to get him elected. He is a good solder and that’s all, they ran him for DPW because they saw an opening caused by the Keehnacs and the Republicans were able to play them like a cheap violin.
So now we have a semiliterate organ grinder playing a tune for his pet monkey {Design}
If this seems harsh remember Skippy’s other claim to fame was his golden oldies rock band and Design seems little more capable then to shake hands and mumble.
So far all they have accomplished is kick the best hot dog vender out of Congress Park and make dandelions, milk weed and swamp grass the predominate flowers in the Park;
And lets not hear any more Keehnac bullshit about the FBI the DEC or digging up the old landfill. That’s the last thing Skippy’s wants unless he can explain the little unmarked Pet cemetery of which not all died of natural causes. Right Skippy some of us old timers remember.
Next Generalissimo Kim.
Of course he needs all the help he can get he’s got a school teacher running the Police and Fire Dept. Not just any school teacher mind you, but a fire breathing NIXUM card carrying magic crystal praying nut job. This women missed her calling I think she would been a perfect Brünnhilde in a Wagnerian opera. I just hope in this opera called Saratoga Public Safety we won’t have to wait till the fat women sings for the end.
Mamie said..11:47 AM
"Ron Kim is right!"
"But what the hell! Go Fuck yourself anyway, Ron!"
Let me guess Mamie.
1. You started drinking a little early today.
2. Your PMS is acting up.
Mamie
Why aren't you working?
And, such language from a civil servent, tsk tsk
There appears to be two kinds of folks posting on these pages. Those who have their heads up their ass about what Saratoga once was and those that has no idea what Saratoga has become. Neither can understand the other and neither are entirely correct. Most of Saratoga Springs City Government is set up to serve the needs of a much smaller city than currently exists. No body can make effective decisions and we are left with no long term plans about ANYTHING.
One side is willing to increase city government come what may, damn the costs or effectiveness of their decisions. While the other side is so completely against spending any money that even demonstrated needs go unfilled and damn the consequences if inaction.
The point is that neither side seems capable of any compromise, and the only ones suffering are the people of Saratoga Springs, the government and the future.
For going on three years now, at least, the Keehn/McTygue feud and now the Johnson/Kim feud has been the centerpiece of our city government. Is this the best we can do? Shame on each of you!
I like to believe that any one who puts them selves out there for elected public service at least starts with some sort altruistic motive. Some small spark of a desire to serve the people of this community. The actions of the above named current and former commissioners makes this hard to believe.
Ho,
You are close but your “facts” need checking. The Mayor has a funded Executive Secretary (a position that has been in place a while). The Finance office has a Deputy and Director but no Executive Secretary. The position of Executive Secretary has been in place for the DPW (Tommy McTygue actually created it) and DPS for a while but never funded.
An Executive Secretary is a non-union, exempt position that serves at the direction of the Commissioner/Mayor. Like a Deputy the Executive Secretary is appointed and can be let go at any time. Like a Deputy, the Executive Secretary typically changes when a new Commissioner/Mayor comes into office.
A lot of people rely on you for their view of this city. Most of the time you do a really good job of doing your home work, but not this time.
Most of the time I agree with your observations, but maybe you need to rethink a few of your conclusions on this one. They really do not add up.
A Loyal Reader
11:47 According to the Charter Mamie, the Human Resources and Personnel Director functions are centralized under the Mayor. This was done before Franck and Company. Ron Kim hasn't gotten anything right. Get to work.
Loyal reader..read my lips there is NO money in the budget for these positions created by the organ grinder.Lets count them 1.letter opener $35,000 2.CONGRESS PARK SUPERVISOR $50,000 3,4,5,ARE UPGRADES AT THE CITY GARAGE TOTALING WELL OVER $35,000,these positions add to the deficet which will probably be over a million dollars.The question that Ivins should be asking in light of the revenue shortfalls... are these positions and payoffs needed? This current city council has done two stupid things 1)voted for these political payoffs 2)took 2.3 million of taxable property off the tax rolls(which also is affordable housing).....maybe this really is fariyland
Lets go Rangers!
“other side is so completely against spending any money that even demonstrated needs go unfilled and damn the consequences if inaction.”
This is simply not true. We are realists who do not fall for the Generalissimo scare tactics. Do you need horses, dog’s, swat teams, boats, jet ski’s or four wheel drive trucks. According to the Generalissimo we do. He says it’s a Public Safety issue and we see it as a bunch of toys we can’t afford. Pounding you chest at press conference and strutting up and down Broadway like Franco only sets you up as a figure of ridicule.
Chief Moore is worse he has become the De-facto head of the Police Unions at least when he’s not on vacation.
As far as Skippy perhaps the stupidest thing he did was to throw out the hot dog vendor from the park. My daughter cried Skip nice job. I suppose your put in one of your buddies and raise the price to four bucks.
Now that Val Keehn and her loyalists failed to complete Vanguard's directive of opening the doors so that Saratoga could become the world HQ for the NXIVM cult, it looks like her mentor is giving up on that mission and shifting his focus elsewhere.
Vanguard and his harem have now been exposed as bing part of a real estate scam on the west coast.
http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/326766.html
Plus, they seem to be obsessed with A Cappela festivals suddenly. Well, it's gotten him into the pants of a couple drop dead gorgeous Hollywood starlets, at least!
So, it looks like Vanguard might be shaking off that local baggage named Val Keehn, figuring that she and her deadbeat followers can't do him any good around here.
He is one of the supposed smartest men on the planet, after all!
Well, lets hope all of this is the case.
That way, Val will lose a good chunk of her campaign funding if she were to ever dare run for office again.
For this time, she might have to do it without Nxivm money ...
demroc said: well let me interject a phrase from the immortal gorilla monsoon. "fountain of misinformation".
firstly if the clown with no class who is trying to offend italians as being organ grinders looked at the facts, we would see all the 12 o'clock appointments tommy made. but since they aren't really interessted having a logical debate, the facts seem to be missing.
where was all this back in december when tommy, on his way out the door hired all his buddies for no reason, promoting people to full time for no reason other then to handcuff the incoming administration financially. (nice job making sure we had salt for the city tommy)silence from the idiots who can only spew such comical stuff as organ grinder. fountain of misinformation. lets put the spotlight on this one hiring because my overlord tom told me so. billy is swamped with work and the need is there. the need wasn't there back in december to hire more people and promote them to full time, but what the hay that doesn't matter. lets make ethnic slurs against italians instead.
here's how political payoffs work, you hire your brother to a $95,000. try to get your other brother the city engineers job, then hire the ex husbands of your daughters, so they'll always be able to pay alimony. and it continues. but lets not look at all the pork that was injected by the incompetence of the previous admin, lets focus on one hiring. a hiring that seems needed. lets not talk about how much money the mctygues have made off this city, it's easier to make grand statements and insult peoples intelligence. seems like remiga has extra time on her hands these days.
and the comment about the garage is such sour grapes it's unbelievable. wasn't it polluted under the last admin.? and it should be pointed out that this entire budget was made and adopted by last years city council, which included you know who, Tmac. so if you have complaints feel free to call him up. i'm sure he's got to be hot because he won't be getting his hotdog kickbacks this year. so remiga i think it might be you who is being the monkey to tommy's organ grinding.
demroc said: the pet cemetary is such crap. there never was one and never will be one. if there were i'm sure tommy would have told us all about it last election instead of getting his ass steamrolled. and lets be honest, i'm sure if it were there and you knew about it that would make you complicit, so instead of bringing the authorities there, you make the claim here, hence you're full of crap. nobody would sit on a story like that.
demroc said. about the vending. the city is currently being sued because tommy let his buddy do the vending in congress park. a very tacky show it was down there taking money away from the places on broadway who actually pay rent. what kind of rules were set up for the vending in the park? at what point do you limit them? is it at four or 5? maybe ten. lets let anyone vend down there with no limits. whats a fair way of doing it? what was the legality of it? maybe tommy should have done a lottery instead of an arbitrary system with the only rule being that you have to know him. why should some have to walk all the way from the park to ben and jerry's to get ice cream, what a hardship.
As amotherof two small children who have enjoyed the carousel and the special treat of an Eddie's hot dog and Italian ice when we visit the park, I can say I am extremely disappointed and very disgusted by the pettiness and political vindictiveness that has surfaced with the decision to ban Eddie from the park. Comm. Kim opposed Eddie based I guess on his being a public safety hazard . But why did Scirocco want him out? We stroller Moms think the DPW Commissioner is an insensitive spoiler, really too dumb for the job.
TO ANO 5:45 The spotlight is in the right place and even you know that RT.You cried partisanship and favortism whenever Mr. Mctygue did anything(except of course when he worked so successfully with Mr. Brono and Ms. Foy To raise well over....I REPEAT well over $100,000 to repair spit and spat...the list goes on.As far as the pet cemetry check the back issues of your Bible, The saratogian.The real show is playing now....it appears it won't be long.DPW contract is up this year get your pocketbook out.
demroc said:to the mother of the small children, just walk a block or two and patronize our fine local shops. it is illegal for vendors to be in the park, the city council is just enforcing regulations that are currently on the books. the problem has been brought to the forefront because the city is being sued yet again because of tmac's unfair practices. like i said, first, it's just plain tacky. second, if you let one guy do it then when do you stop? (when it becomes a marakesh market place) more then one person wanted to vend in the park and it brings a bigger issue of, is it fair to let eddy do it and not someone else. how many of these venders do we want down there? what was the previous admin's policy on this matter? what guidelines did it use to let some people in the park and then prohibit others. (other than i know tommy). the people on bway are paying out their ass on rents and the idea of the COUNCIL was to get people to shop on bway. so if you want a soda walk your lazy, dumb ass to stewarts or cold stone or ben&jerry's etc. at least we know the pay sales tax
"instead of bringing the authorities there, you make the claim here, hence you're full of crap"
News flash CHIEF Slippy was the authorities.
So you never did answere hows that bullshit FBI and DEC investagation going were all still breathlessly waiting.
“demroc said: the pet cemetary is such crap. there never was one and never will be one”
Wanta bet. How long you live here two weeks. The county Republicans were in charge of the animal shelter, Skippy and his predecessors deposed of stray and lost dogs and cats at the landfill using a variety of cruel methods. The DPW workers were disgusted by this behavior but it was a cost effective approach to animal control that was condoned by the powers to be at that time. Remember this entire town and county were controlled by Republicans and there was little Tom or anybody else could do. Skippy is a child of this Republican machine born breed and nurtured by it and he owes them big-time.
The Keehn’s were well aware what kind of people the Republicans and Skippy represented but they were so filled with hate toward McT they just didn’t care so they made a pack with the Devil and lost their soul and gained nothing. So don’t start bitching when you hear the truth. Like Jack Nicholson said you can’t handle the truth. Keehn’s stupidity and arrogance will be studied in political science classes for decades. As for McT he had a great 30 year run. I have no doubt that while Keehn will be looked on as a political buffoon McT will always be remembered with fondness if for nothing else than in helping to lift the Keehn curse from the city.
The vender in the Park charged
$1.50 a Hot Dog and they were good.
So what’s the hardship in going to ben and jerry's to get ice cream.
How about $4 fucking dollars for a cone that’s the HARDSHIP you elitist bastard. Maybe you and your private school spawn can afford it but we can't. Here’s an idea I have no doubt you’d approve how about an admission charge to keep the hoi polloi from the park. That way you and junior can enjoy your ice-cream without rubbing shoulders with the great unwashed masses.
The organ grinder reference is not anti Italian, it refers to a popular folk myth that the Organ grinders Monkey would attack him the first chance he gets. The metaphor here is Pat Design can’t be trusted he turned on McT a man who did him a favor and gave him a job. Behind his little shit eating grim Skippy he’s waiting to turn on you the first chance he gets. Beware the monkey Skippy
From the song
James Blunt (Musician), "Out of My Mind", "Judging by the look of the organ grinder/he'll judge me by the fact that my face don't fit/it's touching that the monkey that sits on my shoulder/he's waiting for the day that he gets me"
“how political payoffs work, you hire your brother to a $95,000. try to get your other brother the city engineers”
No not really first you promote all the people who helped on your campaign until one dept has four supervisors and one laborer. Then your campaign workers are given unlimited overtime until someone notices your bloated budget. Then you blame everything on your predecessor and complain you need a new secretary because you never learned to read or write. Then you make sure you surround yourself with idiots that are bound to make you look smarter. Even you’re the smartest one in the room when you’re surrounded by people with the IQ of a fifth grader right Skippy, who needs talent skill or knowledge when you have cronies to protect your ass.
HO-
It's all back. The gutter talk, the cheap personal shots, the generation of HEAT instead of LIGHT. It's unfortunate... if all-too predictable. I yearn for the days of the "Parking Meter Debate" and your own observation--
"Intelligent posts are always welcomed, especially if they're on topic, well-versed and make a point worth reading."
STILL, I have hope and I believe that INFORMATIVE discourse and Public debate will distinguish the Public Servants from the Petty Sycophants.
Once again we have the cities so called intelligentsia telling us what we need for our own good. They look down from there gilded mansions and say we must have a new police station we must have the best schools in the nation. I love their favorite line “we can’t afford not too.”
Well yes we can and we must. The same people who demand extravagant services are the same ones who bemoan the lack of diversity that is directly correlated to the high cost of living and lack of affordable housing in the city.
The working classes have been screwed by the Republicans in this city for so long they have come to expect it but it is particularly painful to see the harm the progressive Democrats have caused. From making the residents of public housing pawns for their political agendas and reelection bids to making the public housing task force little more than a NEXIUM social club they have used and abused the working class through their lies and intimidation.
The few of us the working poor left have had enough and any politician who votes to raise taxes to fund their pet projects will find themselves outside looking in. Much the same way the poor and working class has found itself for the last fifty years.
To all you purposely lying elitist pricks who wish to further there own agenda by blaming the rich developers it was their well paying construction jobs that was the only real job opportunities for our sons and daughters who couldn’t afford an ivory league education. Many used these job opportunities to attend SUNY schools as they were forced to work their way through college A concept I am sure most of you progressives are unfamiliar with.
The days that they workers and labors of this city rubbed elbows with the intelligentsia in the bars of Caroline St are about as threatened as a Brazilian rainforest.
I only hope these are not the last days of the late great Saratoga that we all loved so well.
We must be talking about McTygue's buddy that used to work for DPW and owned the bar on union ave. McTygue had the boys remove the rubbish from this bar as well as let this same guy steal all the supplies he needed for his bar from the Canfield Casino. This same guy let his friends gas up their cars at the city garage. Have you guessed who thisis yet? HINT: This guys father was McTygue's father's deputy way back when he ran DPW. The scams just kept on going! Finally we are rid of them! As far as Remiga. Isn't she DEAD? That cradle robber. Always chased the younger men. Even when she taught school in Mechanicville. She was chasing the young boys then.
anon 1:17 is an idiot! How is it these McTygue loyalists seem to forget where he came from and what he has done along the way. All McTygue did was cut hair at the family barber shop! He never graduated from high school! When his father was DPW chief he and his buddy Dick Bendon would drop off the dead fish on the porches of the enemies. Now he has others doing that for him. Dickie Bendon was rewarded by McT for being loyal. He was so loyal to McT he was arrested this past election for stealing Political signs off of people's lawns. The money he has cost the taxpayers in lawsuits is in the millions. That oil spill problem at the garage started at $200,000 for clean up but we have not heard the whole cost. Of course that is Val Keehn's fault! If that poor smuck didn't turn that in from the garage no one would ever know. I wonder why it was never turned in before that? Fear of retribution I would guess. That god that piece of shit is gone!
Mamie you’re ranting are becoming more hilarious daily. Perhaps you should check the paint in your office for lead I’ve heard it causes brain damage of which you are showing symptoms.
First if McTygue's was so bad how did he become the longest tenured elected official in Saratoga Springs history? Not only did he do that but many of his 15 odd election wins came at a time when this city was 2 to1 Republican.
For bimbo number two
“He never graduated from high school!”
So I guess getting a GED while serving your county in the Navy doesn’t count has a real high school education. Tell me what branch of the service were you in? Elitist swine.
By the way Skippy never graduated from High School or served in the military. I did hear he was a pretty good shot bagging kittens and puppies at the landfill. Real nice people you progressives support. I also love the way you degrade Foy she was after all only the cities first elected women and she did graduate from high school and went on to get a little thing called a Doctorate but I guess she not the right kind of intelligentsia for your taste. She does rub elbows with the working classes and that just drives you arrogant snobs crazy.
anon 10:01 You really are talking out your ass. You must blow McTygue! This guy was a crook! Don't you get that? He was the guy who promoted his guys like Tony Fisher and the mook patrol! Fisher, Dickie Bendon, Johnny Wine. All scum. Sucking that government tit dry. McT got kickbacks from these contractors you talk about. He and Bendon charged Caterers at the Canfield Casino to let them use the facilities and pocketed the money. Ask any caterer that used to go there. They know what went on. Bill McTygue was the biggest appointment ever paid for this city. Did you ever hear this jackass speak at the council meetings? Blah! Blah! Blah! Show me the money! Fuck the Taxpayer.
It wasn't too long ago that Saratoga was a hick town - thankfully the Keeniac dems came in and were able to show us how stupid we were. We don't even have a Trader Joe's or a Gourmet Garage so we can feed ourselves. Hopefully the next election will give us what the dems think we need. "Ron K 24/7" will become my mantra.
Anon 6:52 PM
You are one of the ones sent here to straighten us out. Thanks for providing us with heaven on earth. Please help me pay though.
Anon 1:29 PM
I agree, take a look at the saparies in the Sunday paper - it may be the time for another tea party. The newbies just don't understand.
Mamie you little office tart let me clue you in about something. The DPW garage is very old. Many people work there, sometimes things get spilled. Back in the bad old days before we became so environmentally aware these things were simply mopped up and forgotten about. You would be hard pressed to find any garage, public or private that was in use for that period of time that was not polluted. Case in point the Gas Station at East and Union that Stewarts spent a small fortune cleaning up or the Mobil at Broadway and Lincoln that is being cleaned as I type this.
What was unfortunate is an opportunist namely Valarie Keehn was scummy enough to use her shyster Lawyer Husband down at the DEC to try to make a federal case out of it. Dirty politics sometimes works but what Keehn found and later her role model found {Gov Spitzer} these kinds of dirty tricks have a way of coming back and biting you in the Ass. So Mamie learn a lesson, what goes around comes around and watch those rug burns the new carpet barely broken in.
So now the scum sucking flesh eating Keehniacs swine got a bug up their ass with Remiga. So what great crime has the Grand Dame of Saratoga politics done to warrant your wrath, is she one of your wretched? Did she fail to bow down to Keehn when she passed her on the sidewalk? And what pray tell does she have to do with the subject at hand? I know you just wanted to slander somebody new for a change
Keehnacs always remind me of the
“Scorpion And The Turtle”
A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on its back across the river. "Are you mad?" exclaimed the turtle. "You'll sting me while I'm swimming and I'll drown." "My dear turtle," laughed the scorpion, "If I were to sting you, you would drown and I'd go down with you. Now where is the logic in that?" "You're right," cried the turtle. "Hop on." The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle, resigned, said, "Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there is no logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?" "It has nothing to do with logic," the drowning scorpion replied. "It's just my nature."
And yes it is just the Keehnacs “nature." So they just lie and slander people this time it was Remiga turn. They just can’t help themselves.
Sucking that government tit! I love that one. What's wrong with these idiots? Anytime someone has something to say about McTygue they must be new to town or a Keehniac. I lived here 57 years, which happens to be my entire life. i have work for McTygue a long time. All these things that are said are facts. The reason he got elected was because he was in bed with republicans. Always has been. The kickbacks surrounding McTygue were hot and heavy. So give it up. The republicans finally got sick of his power plays so tossed him.
"Back in the Bad Old Days we mopped it up and Forgot about it"
This is the mentality we have to live with? These comments are the reason why this city and its government are so fucked. This isn't your city in the country anymore. The 21st century has arrived. Get off the horse and buggy and join the here and now. Tom "The Tulip" is no longer here to hold you back! "Your old road is rapidly aging. Please get on a new road if you can lend a hand, For The Times They are A-Changin."
Good analogy Anon 5:54 PM
I liked the “Scorpion and the Turtle”. Keehn did manage to destroy McTygue but in the process she destroyed herself and the party.
It is time for Generalissimo Kim to exert his emergency powers. I hereby allow Kim to declare Martial Law. Johnson is to be arrested at once. I will be put back on my throne. The new Rec Center will be renamed the Coliseum. McTygue and his wretched buddies will be thrown to Skippy’s rabid hounds. I want my portrait hung from every building and in every office. Get me that guy who did Maos banner in Tiananmen Square I like his work. I will tax everyone out of their homes; private property is theft from the people. I am the people “The Peoples Mayor” all is mine.
Arrest that Hot Dog guy. There will be No Hot Dogs did you hear me I said no Hot Dogs in the park God dam it.
That dipshit and her shyster Lawyer {David Keehn?} that managed to get Eddie the Hot Dog Man kicked out of the Park needs to be taught a lesson.
BOYCOTT HER SLIME DOGS, QUALITY HARDWARE AND EBI BEVERAGES.
Eddie had the best dogs in Saratoga period. He was an asset to the city and offered the best AFFORDABLE lunch in Saratoga. Somebody should ask Skippy who he cares about the McDonalds and Wendy’s owners or the Mothers and their Children who stroll in the Park. Skippy always the Republican stooge knows were his bread is buttered the multi-national Corporations win again.
And to the person who complained it was unfair to Ben and Jerrys wise up.
In April 2000, Ben & Jerry's announced its acquisition by multinational food giant Unilever.
Ben and Jerrys is just another multi-national I don’t think there really threatened by Eddie.
no she's just an idot
when we start quoting james blunt as a society, we are surely in trouble. what are you in high school or something, out on spring break with nothing else to do
demroc said: this is great, you make the arguments so easy to defend. now we've gone from a county wide conspiracy about a fabricated pet cemetary, which you implicated the DPW, run by non other then tom mctygue himself the very person you try to glorify. now the guy you claim isn't smart enough to run a race is involved in a multinational food conspiracy. (i'm sure most people are going to get a kick out of that)your logic doesn't make sense. for a good read, check out the article in the times union today about the vendor in the park. firstly enforce the laws on the books, don't be an elitist like tommy and let your friends run saratoga.(bendon, fisher,eddie,bonacio) if you're to blind to see that then i feel sorry for you. you obviously must've had your hand involved in it because you sound like a bitter nitwit uncapable of threading any logical thought together. you've rambled from one thing to another with very little thought, and the only thing you've proved to this point is that it was the right decision.
bottom line, it's not fair to deny one persons request to run a similar stand in the park, then after that, allow a personal friend in the park to vend, no matter how good the hot dogs are, and they were't that good.(if talking about how good hotdogs are isn't an oxymoron then i don't know what is).
i think fairness is a matter of caring about people. letting your friend vend in the park against city code is hubris.
*how was he an asset to the city of saratoga? he paid $200 dollars for the permit. thats it. he provided crappy italian ices which weren't cheap, they make you long for the days of the grasso truck
the thats all.
*actually john arpey was the lawyer not keehn as asserted above, obvioulsy facts are not your strong suit anon.
*are we actually to believe that tommy wasn't getting a cut from the hot dog guy, maybe thats why him and his minions have taken so strongly to such a red herring issue, maybe thats why he denied the first application only to allow the other. dylan once said, "money doesn't talk it swears obscenity...propaganda all is phony"
What I find incredible is that I write a post about what appears to be abject waste in City Hall and the conversation drifts back to McTygue and the hot dogs "controversy" in the park...oh well.
Then Horatio write about the hot dog man for many of us it is a quality of life issue.Overprced crepes or good hot dogs
Kathy Kahl the witch who spoiled the Park. She sold hot dogs in front of the arts center on Broadway. Her cart made a Bangkok food vendor look good. Just a case of sour grapes. I have no doubt her and her ink were against the carousel being in the park to and yes can thank McTygue for that also.
“The 21st century has arrived. Get off the horse and buggy and join the here and now.”
Your right Keehn and Kim were a bad mistake and best forgotten or in the case of Kim ignored. Johnson and his vision are the future for this city.
McTygue will always be remembered fondly by future generations who will enjoy his vision for the park and the City.
Thank god for demroc his one man campaign to rid congress park of unhealthy Hot Dogs will save me and my private school spawn from being subjected to scenes of the horribly wretched wolfing down Hot Dogs. Perhaps a nice tofu vender would be in order.
Hey people.
Let's not forget; we are Saratoga Springs.
Hotdogs are for the lowly masses.
We are a gourmet City.
Tofu, bamboo shoots, and $6 brownies from Mrs. London’s are staples that most Saratogains enjoy.
The only hotdogs Saratogains should eat are those $5 dollar ones at the Racetrack and they should be limited to no more than 2 per season.
Doesn't the woman who sued over hot dogs live in Greenfield Center?
Someone tell the wiener witch to go sell her hot dogs in Greenfield's very popular park. Oh yeah that's right, there isn't one
demroc said: well we're getting close to 50 posts horatio...
tom ruined the vending in the park. i like his quote when asked by dennis yusko why he denied her, then let the next applicant in the park instead of her.(as if being buddies with eddies hotdogs wasn't the reason)refering to her stand, "it was like a carnival atmosphere". hello it's right next to carousel, isn't that like a carnival? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him pull the buggy. days of letting your buds scam the city are over tommy sorry you're so upset about it, i guess you guys had more to lose then we all thought.
it's always funny how the mctygue alongs pretend they were true dems. and by pointing out the shady behavior the guy did all those years, the party is now ruined. please the party will go on.
how did the B.T.K. guy go 30 years working in a city gov't in kansas? oh i guess the number of years service doesn't matter at the end of the day when you act a certain way.
McTygue will be remembered by more people as a crook who cost taxpayers year after year. Very few will remember him for anything else. He never planted one flower or plowed any of our city streets. Please let's be real. He was far from a visionary. He was more of a bully who preyed on citizens who had no say on issues concerning the city.
Why are we blaming Skip Scirocco for something that was created by John Franck? Why is Franck giving anyone a permit to sell when it is against the city ordinance? This would not even be an issue if John Franck(McTygue Junior) payed attention to the law. I wonder what Scott Johnson thinks about this, being a lawyer and all? "How many scams must a man be involved, before he can become a man? The answer my friend, is Blowin' In The Wind. The Answer is Blowin' In The Wind."
The only vision McTygue had was His girl Steph when she bent over to plant flowers. I hear she was the best at planting Tulips. Now she is over in Franck's Dept. I wonder if she was the one that gave that permit to the hot dog guy? Stay Tuned!
City Council screwed up on the law allowing venders on city property. They could have added more dollars to the revenue stream. It would have made sense to me to increase the cost of the permit. Reinforce rules for applicants. Then issue permits to all applicants who meet the criteria.
Who cares, I don't, if multiple hot dog venders have carts going at the same time. Competition would be good, and ultimately determine who stays and goes if the market is limited.
This is getting good! More shit on the McTygue's. PRICELESS! Hasn't this guy done enough? Now His Puppet Johnny Boy Franckfurter is giving out illegal permits for The Tulip's hot dog vendor. These guys will stoop to all time lows to fuck the general public. Why are we worrying about a couple of assistant's job's when we have this?
I know you Tommy McTygue fans are totally frustrated because he was a major let down. His kingdom has crumbled and you are a part of that disaster. Sorry, but you all are history. A bad memory that will be talked about for years to come.
"You used to ride on the chrome horse with his diplomat. Who carried on his shoulder a siamese cat. Ain't it hard when you discovered that. He really wasn't where it's at. After he took from you everything he could steal."
HOW DOES IT FEEL?
OH! HOW DOES IT FEEL?
TO BE ON YOUR OWN.
WITH NO DIRECTION HOME.
LIKE A COMPLETE UNKNOWN.
LIKE A ROLLING STONE!
I agree with Anon 8:58 AM Keehn is the past and Kim is irrelevant. Johnson is having a community meeting at the Principessa Elena Thursday night. Hopefully he’ll have some new and fresh ideas. Maybe he’ll have a plan for the waterfront, Keehn sat on it for two years mainly because it was Lenz’s idea.
Hey demroc If Kim had a press conference and nobody showed up would he make any noise or would a lot of hot air just blow down Broadway
Hey demroc I heard you favorite Ex-Govonor was able to make a hormone
Yea he didn’t pay her.
Long live the progressives they brought true humor back to politics
The Progressive Waltz
Love Client Number Nine
I got in office in 2002,
Cause I’m progressive, and a liberal, too.
I sicked the state police on an enemy of mine,
He didn’t know that I was really Love Client Number Nine.
I took my office and I called a ho,
So she could do me like I did Grasso.
She held out her palm and I crossed it many times,
She said she would call me Love Client Number Nine.
She said she’d charge me extra and she wished me luck,
She said you’re the governor, you can run amok,
I may be base and low rent, but I’m not some upstate schmuck,
I dropped my pants, I smiled, I gave her four thousand bucks.
I didn’t care if I was wrong or right,
I started screwing everything in sight.
But when the F.B.I. put a wire on the line,
They put me on the news as Love Client Number Nine.
Love Client Number Nine . .
"There's more problems for the Journal Register Company... JRC is being suspended from trading on the New York Stock Exchange because the stock has collapased from a high of nearly $24 about 10 years ago - down to 32 cents on Tuesday. The stock price is lower than the price of a single copy of The Register [New Haven]--Hartford Courant 4/16/08
We're talking stock value along the lines of Topps Baseball Cards, circa 1986.
Hot Dogs we don’t need no stinken Hotdogs. We came here the progressives and enlightened you to the truth we saved your city and carefully explained to you what backwoods inbred hillbillies you were.
So how did you repay our generosity first you throw Val out of office now you complain you want to eat cheap Hot Dogs.
"but you're still fuckin' peasants as far as I can see..."
John Lennon
Hey Dylan's Villain’s get with the present and quote something a little more contemporary. Dylan’s a dinosaur I have no doubt you are too.
Johnson’s the future for this City the sixties are dead.
Join Scott at a community meeting at the Principessa Elena were he will discuss the future of this City.
demroc said:don't care about ron kim
HEY mamie Mr. Mctygue hired you his judgement wasnt to bad then.....was it?, or was it.Other than being a back biting bitch what to get paid to do....do you open envelops too?..or just lick the stamps.
BOYCOTT PTOMAINE KAHL
So Ptomaine Kahl wants to poison us with her toxic food. No thank you.
Her foods not fit for man nor beast and of course she's one of Val’s Pals.
Boycott Quality Hardware
Boycott EBI Beverage
Mannie you stupid little Twit.
First the Hot Dog man provided a service, great Hot Dogs at a great price. McTygue was careful to keep out people like PTOMAINE KAHL so you wouldn’t have food poisoning break out in the city. The Hot Dog man paid a fee and collected sales tax that CONTRIBUTED to the city, a concept I have no doubt you are unfamiliar with.
A couple of assistant's job's will contribute squat just like you. Two more wining political hacks stumbling around city hall watching porn and writing nonsense on political blogs all on the cities dime.
...oh well.
I wonder what would happen if you let this post stand for a couple of weeks to see where it would go and how many topics would come up on their own without being facilitaed.
Of course they would still have to be screened.
What post has had the most hits so far?
Johnson’s credibility with me is decreasing as he increased water fees because it rained too much and sales fell off. Then takes a taxed property off the tax roll, that is also currently affordable, to satisfy an affordable housing special interest group that wants to build an empire to flex their power over low income people.
“demroc said:don't care about ron kim”
Yes demroc Rom Kim has proven himself to be nothing but a blowhard. Whatever credibility he had was lost when he hired Eileen Finneran as his Deputy. People such as Kim who are prone to egotistical outbursts of self indulgent wining are best ignored.
Kim’s precious new police building needs a super majority of the city council{ four out of five must approve} to go forward and there’s about as much chance in that happening as Val and McT moving in together.
Kim and is ideas are the past time to move forward.
Anybody else notice how warm it is today?
Did Rom Kim give another Press Conference there’s a lot of hot air on Broadway today.
Hey Anonymous 6:52 AM.. Don’t blame that affordable housing special interest group on Johnson. There nothing but a NEXIUM social club stated by, run by, and starring the Queen herself Val Keehn.
dem roc said:say what you want about ron kim, obviously your reading skills are slipping, but you can't honestly be pissing on Dylan. can you say icon, i mean he hasn't written songs like the blunt guy, but someday we might put Dylan right up there with him. honestly now, there hasn't been a contemporary artist who can walk where Dylan has pissed. how many grammy's have you won since 1995?
maybe you could just walk your lazy ass across the street and get some hot dogs from stewarts.(close your eyes while doing it, please) i'm sorry tommy's buddy won't be able to vend in the park anymore. maybe we can get dicky bendon back in there (another tommy long time buddy) oh thats right, thats why they came up with the no vending ordinance to begin with.
* i don't care about ron kim means i don't care about ron kim, slam away.
AS far as whining. you spent the better part of a week putting post after post about fucking hotdogs for gods sake, you've whined about everything from walking on broadway to prices, they are just friggin hotdogs.(how good can they be), it's gold jerry it's gold, let it go loser. buy a pack of oscar meyer wieners and get over it.
demroc said: "steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king" or in this case a career politician, and his buddies bilking saratoga for 30 years.
i guess we do live in a political world
Anon 8:53 Don’t blame that affordable housing special interest group on Johnson.
Yes I will hold this city council and Johnson accountable, just as I have with past councils when their spending habits make my wallet thinner.
The current council is the one that took revenue from the taxpayers by changing the status of taxable property.
This is the best we get? Coming out in huge masses to defend Tommy's Hot Dog Stand? This was just a front for his buddies and their habits. Ya' know what I mean, Vern? They were providing a service! Selling to the young pipe puffers.
Oh What will do my blue eyed son?
What will you do my darling young one?
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest. Where the people are many and their hands are all empty. Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters. Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison. Where the executioners face is always well hidden. Where hunger is ugly,where souls are forgotten,where black is the color,where none is the number. And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it. And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it. Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinking. But I'll know my song well before I start singing.
AND IT'S A HARD,IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD RAIN'S A-GONNA FALL!
Anon 8:53
Who cares! Affordable Housing is what it is. If your wallet is getting thinner why don't you move there. Maybe even your beloved hot dog man can sell that nasty pork product there! Call your hero McTygue to contact that board over there to change the decision.
Bob Dylan Rules! Just keep it coming! Really! Who is more of a legend? Tommy "The Tulip"? If you are hungry just go grab a sub from Marino's(used to be scuder's) bring it to the park and have a picnic. We don't need this salesman in the park selling to our kids!
Poor poor dem roc you have worked so tirelessly, to educate the peasants of Saratoga and receive so little credit. Face it dem roc we are a backward lot who would still be washing our laundry in the Congress Park pond and eating unhealthy Hot Dogs if it hadn’t been for your lawsuits and still you go unthanked and unappreciated. Now we have dared to criticize one of your icons {Dylan} who has giving us some of the greatest music in western civilization such as
Wiggle wiggle wiggle in your boots and shoes
Wiggle wiggle wiggle you got nothing to loose
Wiggle wiggle wiggle like a swarm of bees
Wiggle on your hands and knees.
From Wiggle, Wiggle, Bob Dylan: (Under the Red Sky).
How profound
We hare simply not worthy of you the Miss Keehn.
Please forgive oh great one!!
Somebody flush this toilet
Wush
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